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Inspiration Exchange Diabetes Moments Episode 6: Love and Acceptance with Georgie Peters, My Lazy Pancreas

Georgie Peters of My Lazy Pancreas joins Cherise to discuss her journey with type 1 diabetes, diabulimia and the body positive diabetes movement. Georgie dives into the importance of keeping it real when sharing on social media. We all love a feel good story but sharing the good, bad AND the ugly helps build authentic connections and community—because we know, it’s not all unicorns and sunshine living with diabetes.

Show Notes

Intro/Outro Music

Road Trip by Joakim Karud. Music promoted by Audio Library.


NEDAWe Are Diabetes and Diabulimea Helpline

Georgie Peters of My Lazy Pancreas standing before river in Paris with Eiffel Tower in the background

Show Transcript

Intro: Hello and welcome to Inspiration Exchange: Diabetes Moments podcast, a collection of Inspirational stories brought to you by Roche diabetes care. I am your host, Cherise Shockley. And during this podcast, we will focus on stories of inspiration and peer support while on the go. So grab a cup of coffee and enjoy the show.

Cherise: Hi everyone. Thank you so much for tuning into the Inspiration Exchange: Diabetes Moments. My name is Cherise Shockley. I am your host, and I also happen to live with latent autoimmune diabetes in adults. I was diagnosed in 2004. Today I am joined by Ms. Georgie Peters, and there are so many fantastic things about her that I am excited to talk about and discuss because I've never physically had a conversation with Georgie before, but see her everywhere on social media. So it feels like we know each other. So welcome to the show Georgie.

Georgie: Hey Cherise, it's so great to be here. I'm so excited.

Cherise: Oh, I'm so, you just have no clue this conversation can go so many different places because you do so many things in the diabetes space. You shed light on topics that people don't discuss. So, but before we get into that, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and, your diagnosis story?

Georgie's diagnosis story

Georgie: Yes. Sorry. I was diagnosed just before I hit 18. I'm so I was in my last year of high school in Australia. You can tell by my accent that I am not from the US. I was in my last year of high school. Bit of a surprise. I had a bit of a tough time with it. It was a bit of a hard time to get diagnosed when you're sort of, you know, a teenager and leaving home for the first time. So that was nine years ago nearly. Exactly. I guess sort of since then I, I've had ups and downs. Like sometimes I've been really feeling really empowered by diabetes and other times diabetes or sort of, uh, taking power away from me a little bit. I've been sort of living with diabetes for nine years, and I've so stretched out a lot of people who had diabetes as well cause I found out really quickly that it can be quite isolating. Sorry, I should've specified type one. I was diagnosed with type one diabetes when I was 17.

Cherise: Wow. So you're about to leave home going to college or university is what you all call it. Yeah. What was, what was your reaction? Do you have is there a family history of type one diabetes?

Georgie: No, but my family kind of has like the endocrinology trifecta. So a lot of my cousins and my sister, I have celiac disease and my mom sort of got thyroid issues so they all kind of linked in together. So I sort of got the short, short end of the stick. Um, yeah, big shock. I didn't sort of, I didn't really know what it was. All I knew that Stacey from the babysitters club had it. That was sort of my only reference point.

Cherise: I used to watch the Babysitter's Club, so I was diagnosed as an adult, but I was 23 years old, and I do not remember Stacey having diabetes. I don't know if I don't remember it because I just didn't pay attention to it because I didn't have to. I do remember the Steel Magnolias, but I just cannot remember exactly right. I can't remember Stacey. So you know, they're going to do a reboot of the series. So I hope they leave it in there because I don't have time to go back and read the books. But if they do, it would be interesting to see how it's, uh, represented, uh, in the TV show.

Georgie: Do you know what's really interesting? So we need so much better than a positive representation cause Steel Magnolias, I didn't know what it was about, and that was the first movie I watched after I was diagnosed. So I was sitting on the couch one night, and this movie came on TV, and I was like, oh, Steel Magnolias, cool, it looks good. So I tuned in. And didn't realize until halfway through. It's about diabetes. We don't know how it ends. And my mom comes out, and I'm just sobbing on the couch. It's like two weeks after I was diagnosed. Um, and that's like the only time that like, it was like that and Stacey they’re the only two things I knew about diabetes, and this was like two weeks in and I was like, look, guess I'm not having children. Yeah, that sort of, I think where a lot of it started. I was like, surely there it's better representation out there. Then you know this.

Cherise: I couldn't imagine seeing Steel Magnolias after being diagnosed with diabetes.

Georgie: Oh, I see. Yeah. I wish I had known what it was about. I wish I'd read the little blurb on the info before you press play, but you know you're living you learn. I always read the information now.

Cherise: Did you have any peer support around you or did you just kind of go at it? Can you tell me a little bit about that story?

Georgie: No, so not for the first few years. So I basically, I, after I finished high school, I took a gap year. Um, so I'm used to England. Looking back, my mother was so brave to let me go because I probably only had it for nine months. And then I moved over to England. Um, just sort of taking some time off, but I didn't have any peer support. I didn't know anyone with it. Um, like obviously the Internet was a thing back then, but it wasn't, social media wasn't as big of a base. I really lived with it by myself. And so I really struggled those first couple of years. Um, I started, it's like all everything, it's over the Internet as well.

Like I really struggled with an eating disorder. I've abused my insulin, and it was just sort of only when I came back to Australia I sort of said to myself, I can, I need to find people who, um, and you have it. And so I sort of scoured Twitter and Facebook and I found OzDOC, which is the Australian diabetes online community. And that was sort of my first foray into peer support. So the people that I know now with diabetes, I've met the majority of them, uh, online, which is really cool.

Cherise: You touched on Diabulimia a little bit. And I think that's something that a lot of people, uh, for one, they're not familiar with it or they don't realize what it is. So, um, it would be interesting, we don't have to spend a lot of time on it. But what was the feeling of going through that alone? You didn't have anybody like I couldn't imagine because back then there was not a lot of information. Even if it was, it was very little information about, and now you kind of see it everywhere, which it should be everywhere. Um, so for our listeners that may not be familiar with it, um, and without getting too medical, can you explain exactly how that affected you?

Georgie: Yeah, so essentially Diabulimia is a term that people in the community use to describe sort of restricting your insulin to lose weight. So, uh, in terms of affecting me, so eating disorders by themselves generally are really, really isolating. Um, and there is this is a horrible sort of voice in your head that tells you what to do and when to do it and how you should be feeling. With Diabulimia it tends, I found, cause I'm in this really weird, unique position where I'd have an eating disorder before I had diabetes and then I recovered and I got diabetes, and I fell into another one so I could really, I could compare it. But the thing about Diabulimia is that it's even more isolating. You know, like when you Google what you're doing, there's nothing sort of there.

Um, and it feels are you feel so unwell? Um, it just, it takes like, you're obviously, you're starving. Your body gets not what you should, it's not what your body is meant to be doing. Um, and so you spend a lot of your time feeling, so, I mean, you're high all the time. Like you're, you're peeing, you're grumpy. Uh, you're feeling physically exhausted, and all of that isn't going to help your mental health. So you sort of live in this bubble of you're continually striving for weight loss, and you're sort of obsessed with what you're eating and what's going into your mouth. Then you go backward and forwards to the toilet all the time.

Um, and it's really, it's very hard to get out of, um, which is why I essentially, I think I'm jumping ahead, but this is why I'm really positive about sort of positive mental, like good mental and positive body image and a smashing diet culture in our space because prevention is very much easier than getting yourself out of it because it was really, really hard that when you went to get help, people didn't know what to do with you.

Um, so yeah, essentially, it's incredibly, incredibly isolating and you're often shamed for it. People don't see it as a legitimate sort of eating disorder. They say it is you, you know, like a horrible, where we all hate noncompliant. Uh, it's, you'll see more as someone who just doesn't want to take care of themselves, and it's not seen as a legitimate mental health issue.

Cherise: So what was the turning point for you?

Georgie: Uh, that's a really great question. It kind of went on and off it went. It sort of grew in severity. I went down a little for the next couple of years. Um, and then the turning point was I'd been hospitalized for DKA a lot. So I'm lucky enough in Australia that you don't pay to be hospitalized, but it was still obviously a huge, uh, it wasn't fantastic. And I'm the last time that I was hospitalized, I had this doctor come in and she sort of outlines so that I had sort of two paths, um, and a really lovely way, not a shaming way, just like, I understand you're struggling here, but this is what's sort of going to happen. Um, and then it was between that, her talking to me and someone in our little communities are sort of little diabetes eating disorder community, someone passed away.

Um, and I was like, oh my god. Like I, you know, I have two choices here, and I love the people around me. Like, I need to, I need to try and get help because, before this, I hadn't really searched for help. Um, so at the turning point was, yeah, essentially someone in our community passing away from this and a doctor saying, look like you, I know you might feel invincible now, but this isn't always going to be the case. Um, but then I guess the second obstacle to that and you can't, you can decide to get better. Um, but then if you just, it's, and if you try like, okay, like usually, you know, in disorder that there'll be a switch. You're so into the eating disorder, and then something will happen, something big. Um, and you'll be like, okay, like it's some, you know, something needs to happen, but when you have diabulimia, you say that and no one's there to help you.

Georgie: Um, so that was really difficult as well. So you might get to a turning point, you know, you get, I got to the point, you know, my ketones wear ridiculous, I know it's like seven. That was, so it was so gross like I was in the hospital for a solid week or so, and I got to that point, I was like, okay, I want to get better. But they were like, oh, we don't, do you want to, you know, you'd see the eating disorder, like a psychologist and they said it would, I wouldn't know what to do and the diabetes people wouldn't really know what to do. And so you sort of floating in between. Um, so you can, you know, once that switch flips, it's a great thing, but you need to know where to go next. Um, and those resources are really lacking.

Cherise: Over here in the US, there's been a lot of conversations happening. I'll go ahead and make sure that I link out to those resources. Um, just in case somebody who may be listening, uh, may, you know, have diabulimia or may just need to get help. So we're going to change the topic just a little bit because I think as you alluded to earlier, this is kind of what your mission is and has been online. So how, first off, how did you find the diabetes online community? And then we'll go into the body positive.

Peer support

Georgie: I found it on Twitter. Um, thanks to you OzDOC in Australian online community was sort of founded after the American one. I just, you know, I set a couple of times online and then I found this hashtag and so there's sort of from there I would have sort of a real life meetup and it all kind of snowballed from there because I met these people. I was like, I remember seeing that at table for the first time being like, the people are beeping, you know, like other people I'd never met anybody else. Is that magical feeling the first time you meet someone else with diabetes at just, uh, I love watching it when I volunteer now and I see other people meeting each other for the first time. Uh, it's great. So yeah, I met those people. And then sort of from there it snowballed. I met other people online. Um, and then sort of from getting sort of making these sorts of friends, I then sort of check myself and just sort of local stuff. So then I also made some dates through volunteering and stuff. But yeah, it was really through Twitter and then Facebook came in and then Instagram. Um, and yeah, it's all sort of just stapled on top of each other,

Cherise: Which is funny because a lot of people like to steer away from Twitter. But I'm telling you Twitter, Woo, I just love it. I love it because you give mute the people you don't want to hear from. You could stay in tune with the interconnected to people who you want to continue to follow. But I think that's a place, I mean that's where I met Renza for the first time, so, and we're going to have her on next week to kind of share her, share her story. But Twitter is just this strange place, which used to be 140 characters and you just get on it. You just have this conversation, it's just amazing. Right?

Georgie: It's so great. It's at, it's so short and sharp, you know, a lot of the time I feel like, well, let me find stuff to talk about it and it's great to have them in long blog posts and to really dive into it. But it's so good to have that instant dialogue, you know? And we're able to connect with health care professionals. And so the other people in this space, it's just, yeah, I love it as well. It's fantastic. As you said, you can meet the people you don't like and just continue on.

Cherise: I've been following you for quite some time ever since you started into the online space. Um, and then I would say last year I recognize this new thing popped up and I'm like, Ooh, what is this Body Posi Betes. Can you tell me the behind it, which you kind of talked about earlier and why now? Why is it so important to have a movement like this? Um, in such a noisy age plus when you think about Instagram, everything is all about fitness and exercise. And help you do this and be on my team because I can help you look like this. So can you talk about that for me please?

Georgie: Yeah, sure. So the inspiration I sort of came from, so I discovered the general body positivity space a few years ago and I was loving it sick because it's, um, it's a space like proper body positivity, not this watered down version that a lot of companies jumping onto. Um, what body positivity is essentially just accepting and celebrating all bodies regardless of health, regardless of size, regardless of aesthetics. And it was such a liberating feeling to be like, ah, oh my gosh, like my body is valid regardless of my health status, regardless of what I look like, regardless of how people think. And so I was going through, but there were all these sort of post and I was like, you know what? This doesn't apply to me because I have diabetes. It doesn't apply to me because I have diabetes. And then I went into the diabetes space.

I went on to sort of like, you know, Facebook and Instagram and Twitter. All right? Surely someone's talking about this and there wasn't, um, also, you know what, I think we really, we need a space that's curated sort of just for us. First of all, the body positivity space generally can be quiet, it cannot be as into sexual as I would like. So there's not a lot of people of color and the movement and there's, I think like the main movement. Um, a lot of people tell us started this. Maybe it ended up being overshadowed by, uh, sort of a, what's the word for it? Corporate sort of bigger people. And there's not a lot of people who were living with an illness or disability in that space either. Um, so I was like, I need to get that in there, that this moving is all sorts of people whose bodies may not work and whose bodies, uh, tend to betray them at times.

Um, and I also sort of wanted to jump in there as well because in the diabetes online space, I find that it is very sort of fat phobia and size phobic, but it's very, uh, especially Instagram, um, is sort of a, what's the word for it? It's targeted and sort of discusses the real sort of fitness and wellness culture and not in a way that's healthy for everyone. Not in a way that says, you know, healthy behaviors, you know, health at every size. Like let's have worked together. So you feel good. It's very sort of, people are always striving towards weight loss. There's this huge like diet culture in the diabetes space is bigger than I think that, I think it is in general society because I think general society's starting to shift, but diabetes, the diabetes space is still stuck. And so that's sort of really why I really wanted to get in there.

I wanted to provide a different dialogue. I want to provide a different voice. Um, so that when people searched up sort of diabetes, when they were doing what I was doing and just searching it up on social media, they would get a different voice rather than all these people saying, oh, this is how you should lose weight and these are the diets that you should go on. And, uh, I, you know, I'm hating myself because I high pray three times today and so I, you know, I'm doing this and I'm gaining weight. Like there was so much weight talk and fat talk fat shaming and I just wanted to sort of create a space where you felt accepted regardless of your size, regardless of your type. Um, regardless, sort of anything. Cause we've all would have a type of diabetes. It is, we were all struggling and we're all sort of struggling with the same things I would believe in terms of body image. Um, so yeah, I just thought it was really important to have that

Bodi Posi Diabetes movement

Cherise: Body image just because one person you would differently. I do believe that you go through, whether you're a teenager or an adult, especially with Instagram it is easy to get caught up into. Oh my gosh, am I, am I too big or you know, do I want to do this or am I too small? And it's really easy, especially in the diabetes space. And I noticed that. So when Bodi Posi Betes popped up and like the message, you learn to hate yourself, but you can also learn acceptance. I am here for you. The message out there is saying, you know what, you are more than what you think you are. You are healthy no matter what. And I'm going to help you get to where you're going to be with the messaging. And so that's what I took from it. What has the reaction been from the, the diabetes community in general?

Georgie: First of all, I'm so glad you took that from it because that's what I'm trying to get out. So that's fantastic. Um, I think, the communities reactions are really good generally. Um, I do, I get a lot of DMs, uh, sort of from people saying, thank you so much or asking for advice. Um, and I kind of feel like I'm not a healthcare professional. I'm not. I'm a teacher. I'm a French teacher by background; that's what I do as a day job. So I'm really going from what has worked for me and what I've learned through therapy and what I've learned through that. But that's it's great, right? It's been great to get people's feedback being like, you know what, this is really needed. Um, and I've been talking to a couple of other sort of people on Instagram that have much bigger followers is that have sort of stumbled across it.

And if they like, you know what, this is fantastic. And I've found that there's a lot of people out there that think like me, but no one is sort of saying it yet because they are quite vocal part of social media who think that I'm promoting unhealthiness and think that what I'm saying is, uh, they are so into diet culture that may say no, you need to respect everyone regardless of what their body looks like. It's very confronting. Um, so I have found that most of all it's been a positive reaction. Um, I have had quite a few people sort of a, I wouldn't say like abusive messages about very strongly worded ones. Um, but I think that's why it's really important too, keep yelling my message. I don't want to, I think the time is over to sort of dance around the issue. I think it's really important that I'm dropping the truth box, so to speak.

Cherise: And you know what? Sometimes we need those truth bombs. You know, I've noticed too a lot on Twitter that there's a lot of conversation about diets. I noticed on Instagram there's a lot of people sharing, you know, their A1Cs and yadda yadda to each their own. I want to say six years ago, so a couple of years after I started blogging and I started using Twitter, I made the conscious decision to say, you know what, I'm lucky my A1C to myself. And the reason why I personally decided to do that is that it's kind of like how we look at it as it's just a three-month test. It doesn't really tell you the story. And that's the kind of way that I look at sharing that A1C.

You don't know my struggles, you don't know how many highs, how many lows or whatever that calls that number. And I don't have come to share that with you through social media. So for me to share it and not say, you know how I don't think for me, I'm doing service to somebody on social media by sharing that number, that number with them. And that's just me, just because I don't want somebody with like, how did you do that? Our bodies are so different. It's not, I don't want anybody to compare their diabetes to my diabetes.

Georgie: I totally agree. Yes. As you said to here and, but I feel like it's just another thing to compare ourselves to. You know, we're already living in a society where we compare our bodies, and we'll compare what we look like. And then when you go on to social media and people are posting their A1Cs, or they are posting this or posting that, it's really important to celebrate the victories, but it's also really important to sort of seeing the struggles. And when you've only got your highlight reel on there, people will go on and think that, oh, I'm, I'm so bad. I'm terrible because this person's saying you managing diabetes so well and I'm the, you know.

Cherise: It is easy to do it. Yeah. It is so easy to do it. Like the other day I was, so I'm finishing my bachelor's degree, so I should be done here as soon.

Georgie: It is so exciting.

Cherise: Thank you. I have my A1C has been a lot higher than what it normally is because of stress and I saw a post and I'm like, Gosh, I remember and I'm like, nope, don't go there because it's so easy to sit there and go down that rabbit hole and I don't allow myself to go down that rabbit hole because my name is Cherise Shockley. I am not the people that I see online. I don't even know their full story to really even compare myself to anyone else so quickly. As soon as I realized that I did it, I was like turn the page.

Georgie: Yeah, exactly. And it's we need to have, I mean we need to have more of those conversations I find especially with Instagram and that's where most people will go now. I think sort of in my generation to find, so the peer support is that it's just, it's a highlight reel and as well as the, as well as the diabetes side of it. So as you know, sort of sharing your flat line, what do you guys call it? The one hundreds we use different 5.5 yeah.

Cherise: The Unicorn.

Georgie: And I'm like, that's great. Like I love a Unicorn Loving Unicorn. It's fantastic, but you need to like, let's share everything and let's share everything, you know, how diabetes can kind of get you at times and how diabetes is a little bit of a pain in the butt. Um, because people that don't know anyone else with diabetes, they're going to start thinking that that's all I, I, you know, my, I spiked this morning, I'm terrible at diabetes. This isn't normal.

 Whereas if we sort of, I only know that, you know, my diabetes playing up in the effective by stress and being affected by my period and all these other different factors aren't, ignore that through talking to lots of other people online and sharing experiences. And if the only input that I'm getting is sort of 5.5 and Unicorns and sort of perfect flat line graphs the whole day, I'm going to think that something's wrong with me.

Georgie: Um, you know, cause it's not.

Cherise: I will, I would say this when I was first diagnosed because of course, I had that option to either go, you know, one way or the other, it was a lot easier. But I've noticed the older than I get numbers, high numbers come out. I mean, it's like, it's shooting from the sky, and I'm like what's going on. So yeah. So it's like, okay, so if I get this unicorn and I share it, I'm going to say this past week I've been nothing but in the two hundreds, like every day.

So this is why I'm sharing this with you because this is amazing because this is, this is not my normal, at least not for today and not for the past week. So, um, another thing to your page, it speaks to everybody, and it's not type specific, which I love.

Georgie: Um, thank you. I wanted to make it like that.

Cherise: You talked about PCOS awareness, which a lot of people do not know about in the diabetes space, especially people with type one, "You are more than your body," "Know your worth," "You don't have to love it. Just accept it." And then, of course, you have some work on here, which I am such a fan of Miss Diabetes.

Georgie: Oh, isn't shape fantastic?

Cherise: She is fantastic. Oh my gosh, fantastic. She does amazing work.

Georgie: Oh, I love her art. It's such a great way to reach people. And she is the friendliest person. I barely spoken to her on Instagram, but she is just so lovely. Um, yeah, no, I love her stuff. It's really, it's really good to see that discussion instead of like a different medium as well. I really appreciate that. It's really, and it will reach people that may not sort of search for other things.

Cherise: So what's next for Bodi Posi Betes? Do you have any like bright ideas? Or is it secret or do you just want to keep it where it is? Like what's next?

Georgie: Oh, that's a great question. Um, so I sort of want to get a little bit, I want to kind of get it out to more and more people and sort of from there I guess from there I really want to get a dialogue going in a space that reaches more people cause at the moment I'm reaching, I'm reaching, let's say we'll just fantastic.

Um, but I really want to get it sort of out there, so people start not, it's not just me and a couple of other vocal people who are sort of pushing back against this diet culture that's in our space. I want it, I want the word to get out there so much that everyone is kind of calling it out. You know, when they'll see something online, they'll see something in their day to day life with diabetes, and you know, someone will comment like, you know, they'll, they'll sort of having a thought about their weight or how they look or maybe their health care professional will say something that's pretty fatphobic for them to have the confidence and the knowledge to be like actually not, like that's not okay.

So I think that's my goal is to really get it out there to reach as many people as I possibly can. Um, I think it's the most powerful thing about social media is that I leave at like I am at the bottom of Australia. I'm very, very bottom of the world and yet I can reach all these different people all around the world. Um, so yeah, look, that's my next goal is to have people discussing it, uh, basically in the bigger diabetes space. So, not just in my little sort of corner of, um, body positivity and sort of in my safe space, but sort of pushing it out and getting people that have had these ideas ingrained in their heads for so long that actually there's a different dialogue and actually you can approach your body in a way that's healthy and full of love and full of acceptance.

Um, so that's my goal. So we'll see if I get there. I'm hoping I do, but yeah, there is a sort of a for my plans, I'm sort of a winging it as I go and the hoping, hoping that more people are willing to listen and talk and sort of start the dialogue.


Cherise: I think that it will go very far. Um, and you know, whatever I can do, uh, on my, on my personal channels to help make that happen, uh, we can totally make it happen. And what you're doing, like I said, is amazing. Um, I have watched you for years. I've watched you go from this, this quiet advocate to this force to be reckoned with, I am watching you from the United States. And I am one of your biggest fans and, and I support you and I believe in everything that you do. Um, so before we, uh, before we go, thank you so much for coming on the show. First of all and since this is the Inspiration Exchange: Diabetes Moments podcast? What inspires you?

Georgie: Oh, that's a really good question. Um, what inspires me? Are we talking life or diabetes or whatever.

Cherise: So we, we had Kerri on episode two. She took it from the angle of her kids and then herself. So being more adventurous.

Georgie: Okay.

Cherise: So it can be even thing. Anything that you want to discuss or share is whatever you feel in that moment. Like what, what inspires you?

Georgie: Do you know what, what inspires me? It's the people around me in this space. I'm going to go, I'm going to go with it from sort of a diabetes point of view. Sort of what the people around me are so passionate about what they believe in and they're so passionate about making this world a better world for people with diabetes, and it is all types of diabetes. They're so passionate about making sure insulin is accessible for everyone and that people wherever they live in the world at able to manage their diabetes and live a long, healthy life.

Um, and I'm also inspired by, I'm going to use the word bolshie how sort of like sassy and forthright and unapologetic the people around me are. Um, and so that sort of gives me the confidence to sort of go forward and sort of get my voice out there and start sort of advocating for people that don't feel that they can do it. Uh, they can do it themselves. Yet I'm so inspired by people who are so confident within themselves, and so confident to be, to be like and, you know what? My voice is valid, and I have a voice, and this is how I'm going to use it. So I think, yeah, the people around me, uh, with diabetes, people living with diabetes or who, excuse me, who live with someone with diabetes. The passion that sort of, I say from them every day is something that inspires me, I think in my day to day life.

Cherise: Wow, well, I'm not going to lie. You had me choked up. This one took me a while to come back every time. I don't know. I think I'm getting like the older I get, the more snappy I get. I don't know what it is or maybe I'm just, I don't know. It's just the stories and I, it's, it's full circle. It's this amazing community, of people that have turned something around that could be negative or seen as negative to people who don't live with it and turn it into the positive things like body positive. Um, or I didn't know about, you know, the Diabulimia and it just hearing it how, how your life kinda just evolved as, as an advocate. I'm sorry. It just chokes me up.

Georgie: That it kind of chocked me up. When I think about it like we're so lucky to sort of advocate and be with friends with and know these people. Like we just, they just generally, we all generally want a better world and we wanted a better sort of, we want a better space to exist in and it's so fantastic. It's also supported by the people around, by the people around you. You know, everyone's sort of working towards the same goal. Um, and I think that's sort of, yeah, it's really what I want to keep achieving is to sort of bring more and more people along with me as we go. So if, you know, standing up to the like the long held beliefs and challenging them and sort of challenge them to make what we do and the world that we live in easier and better for us.

Cherise: And I think that it's getting there is totally get in there. So once again, Miss Georgie, thank you so much for coming on the show. This has been amazing.

Georgie: Thank you so much for having me. It's been such a privilege.

Cherise: Oh, you are very welcome. And if anyone's out there listening, um, you want to share your thoughts use hashtag diabetes moments. Thank you so much for listening.

Outro: Thank you for listening to the Inspiration Exchange: Diabetes Moments podcast. If you have questions or comments, feel free to send me an email or a tweet using hashtag diabetes moments.

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